“It Was Minutely Personal”: Liz Phair Looks Back on 30 Years of Exile in Guyville

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'it was almost like a schoolgirl fantasy mixed with a very serious art project,' says Liz Phair of 'Exile in Guyville.'

, a biting, raw, lo-fi rock exploration of desire and power that travels through speakers like the words of a close friend. “We had an abundance of it when we were young, and we would have given anything to get rid of it,” Phair told visual artist, who designed visuals for the upcoming tour, of the radical vulnerability required to make such an album.

FRANK: I love that. When did that idea of wanting to reclaim some sort of fairy tale start for you? I know, for me, they’re kind of archly feminist, and it’s about digging back into history, finding overlooked women, and giving them a visual voice. FRANK: Yeah, it’s fascinating. That was the subject of Jack and my second book on the “Sorcerer’s Apprentice.” I didn’t know anything about this, but he looks at this tale of a “Sorcerer’s Apprentice,” who is actually like a humiliated and rebellious apprentice. Of course, we don’t hear about the rebellion because people really don’t want to encourage young people to rebel. And in Ovid, just as you were saying, it starts out with women shape-shifting.

PHAIR: I was in love with Nancy Spero’s work, who I interned for, the kind of appropriation of classical figures. She worked with prints and paint, but she basically designed using figurative forms from antiquity that were female and placing them in the situations that she considered male-created, like the Vietnam War, and having these beautiful, linear, forms of naked women just tumbling over these violent scenes of explosions, of helicopters. I was just blown away.person.

 

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