. I was like, “Okay, you’ve used all your cards for the year.” But no, I mean, look, I think Jonathan is and will continue to be one of our greats, and I think so much of that lives in just his relentless pursuit of truth in a character, you know? And I think when you look at his work, what is always so clear is that the character that he is inhabiting is so alive and has a history and has idiosyncratic behaviors, and has a point of view.
What’s so great about Devotion is it’s not just a character, you’re dealing with real legacies of Jesse Brown and Tom Hudner. There’s a great book with a ton of research that the script is based on, but did you get to talk to the families any before filming?