So why hasn’t there ever been a female version of Laurel and Hardy? | Ryan Gilbey

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Maybe there’s something about women being funny together that male impresarios don’t like, says film critic Ryan Gilbey

 

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Pats and Eddie?

Does it really matter? Like seriously. There doesn’t need to be a female version of everything. You’re basically saying ‘Women need everything that men has ever done.’ Kinda suspends creativity in the feminine area having them just copy existing acts. Get over it.

French and Saunders you useless cuntfucks.

Ant & Dec

FFS Peak Guardian

Rather than complaining something hasn't been made, fund it yourself. Your company can certainly afford it.

TitaniaMcGrath

French and Saunders come to mind as a more recent female duo.

Ffs dragonheat

johnmknox There has been. French and Saunders. 🙄🤣

Please take your razor blade away from men's cocks, you done enough damage to our nation, you rudiculous 'progressive' buffoons

Have you never heard of Ethel and Gracie? Shame on you.

Blah, blah, blah. At the end of the day, women just aren't funny and no amount of PC dissection will alter that, Sarah Millican being the exception.

not even an original photo.. hmm why dont women do this themselves.. why dont they build there own movie companies..Im sure there are women who would love to invest in purely womens buisness...

That headline is funnier than any BBC sitcom since 1996.

Oh please piss off. Stop trying to cause a divide with more bullshit news. You expecting a feminist march now? They were just people who did a job and were good at it. quietnewsday loserreporting

LooseLocket

Because they were male?

Constantly having to find offence in EVERYTHING must be very tiring. Have a day off sweethearts 😘

Garfunkel and Oates. Lucille Ball and Vivian Vance. Fey and Poehler. The Olsen twins. The Mowry twins. The article even names at least seven other successful female duos. Begs the question: Why haven't op-ed writers recognized female comedy duos?

Just when you thought the Guardian couldn't get more ridiculous.....

I won't click this clickbait garbage and neither should anyone else

I'm sure Carole could look into it and find its a far right conspiracy.

Because you’re too misogynistic to have noticed any

HOW DARE YOU

We could make this work! 😂

But there has, Flora and Lardy.

Wait . What? Really?

You're begging for subscribers and then you put trash questions like this...

What about the hilarious Mel and Sue 🤔

Oh Jesus... French and saunders, Victoria wood and Julie Walters to start.

Ffs, who gives a shit?

My guess is that there have been some who tried. But they were shit and nobody wanted to see them.

Tell us again how youre on the verge of bankruptcy.

Damned misogyny and its *shuffles flab* Stan and Olly

Probably because it wouldn’t be very good. lookingatyoughostbusters

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Because it's a stupid idea that could only come from this rag

Because women aren’t as funny as men.

You're opining yourselves into oblivion

Please tell me you're bored.

For the same reason there are no female serial killers. (quote from Camille Paglia).

You should seek help

Are you assuming the genders of Laurel and Hardy?

Lucy and Ethel? Mary Tyler Moore and Valerie Harper? Penny Marshall and Cindy Williams? French and Saunders? Saunders and Lumley? Tina Fey and Amy Poehler? What have you been watching, Guardian? There are loads of females duos BETTER than Laurel and Hardy.

Tried, failed. Even with two of each.

What hormone mind bending drugs are you guys on

Err... Stupid question!!

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Why a 'Female Version of' and not a new IP inspired by? Show me originality, rather than coming off as women being only good got copying men.

The female version of Hardie will be criticized for being fat-shamed.

You print some utter garbage. The paper of the eternally offended. Rag.

Because there are many spectacularly well done female comedy duos for one. And because women should not be forced into a male role to show their worth and value. They have that on their own.

Could you be any more shit if you tried?

Why there is no female version of the guardian and/or Ryan Gibey?

Because there isn’t a demand for it?

Ab Fab.

Because there doesn't have to be a female, LGBTQ, Black, etc., version of ________. It's lazy. It not sexism, _____phobia or racism either. Stop being victims.

Grow up

You mean a female comedy duo that set themselves up to look like idiots for laughs? Because, we would then be reading Grauniad columns about how misogynistic it is portray women as stupid.

Laverne and Shirley.

Because women generally are not funny.

Probably because women aren’t funny.

because women aren't funny

For fucks sake

Cause 99.9% of woman just aren't funny... Most are to bussy whining about the imaginary patriarchy suposedly holding them down. 🤣

Why don’t French and Saunders get a mention. Surely one of the great female comedy partners.

What a waste of words. Utter shit.

What a truly ridiculous article.

Because they were unique.....and that's why we like them.

Hands up if you actually read the article in full before commenting

Because women cannot look so stupid even if they try

The Guardian even fucks up comedy articles. 🙄

nicolashoe up for it?!

We gave up a rib and the rest is history

This is a very good article hidden behind a horrendous title. Please stop the clickbaity titles where you twist the writer's intended message to create outrage.

Why does there need to be?

French and Saunders!!!!

Laverne and Shirley

Hmmm... same reason there has been no female version of the three stooges, I imagine. Speaking of stooges ... well played Ryan.

Have women no agency that they cant come up with their own shit, and have to duplicate what men do.

I don’t think it would work. Simple as that.

How about Gillard and Wong?

ZaSu Pitts and Thelma Todd. Next question.

You try and tell me that commercials on Australian TV aren’t sexist. Most I see show the stereotype of a mumbling stumbling bungling man, as the sensible calm woman looks on ruefully. I did complain to Ad Standards and got exactly what I wanted “Case already heard, dismissed”

Delete ur account

Maybe because women, or will I repeat that, maybe women don’t think other women are much good at comedy. As hard as I have tried, I can’t find any funny either, sad really. Laverne and Shirley a classic example- just not the slightest bit funny. My favourite singers are all women

Chiming in with Garfunkle and Oats not to correct anything but just a chance to say their name.

There was, Thelma Todd and Zasu Pitts and Thelma Todd and Patsy Kelly

Phylis Diller said it all, way back. Women are not supposed to be funny. That is the male ruling. It's only because they are afraid of women laughing at them. The revered sanctum of the male space. LOL

The same reason as to why their hasn’t ever been a male version of Shirley Temple .

cos it would go ‘tits up’

like watching a poor tribute act

Now you’re looking stupid. Get off the gender equality issue. French and Saunders... Absolutely fabulous etc etc. If they are any good and they make me laugh, I don’t care what sex they are.

How many people criticising this article have read it? Its point isn't that female double acts don't exist but they are vastly outnumbered by male ones. It also says crap female acts are used to berate female comedy whereas male ones aren't for male comedy

For the same reason there wasn’t a male version of Cagney and Lacey

Women can't grow little mustaches?

Is that a serious question? They were males. Females cannot pretend to be males properly in films. Presumably you are driving the so-called gender-neutral silliness.

why hasnt there been a male version of Laverne & Shirley? DumbQuestion

🤢🤮 why cant people stop playing the gender card? just be yourself and stop resenting everyone else for being the way they are

So why hasn’t there been a version of three men and a baby except three women and a snapping turtle that can bite through prison bars?

Lucy and Ethel.

Lucy & Ethel?

What a fantastically odd premise for a newspaper article, you do know that you don't have to publish every thought that pops into your head don't you? Next week, 'Why don't penguins drive, flippers too short or just plain lazy?'

Trolling again Guardian? Pull your heads in.

Thatcher and May?

Todd and Pitts. They worked for Hal Roach. You know, the same person that Laurel and Hardy worked with? Only they were a comedy duo in their own right, not a 'female version' of L&H.

French and Saunders?

Tina Fey and Amy Poehler

B/c they were Stan Laurel & Oliver Hardy. Men. Why does everything need to be changed to include both genders? Can't things be left as they are? For fuck sakes enough with politically correct shit.

Awesome! I would like to see all their movies again.

To be fair there ain't no male equivalent, or even human , they are the greatest of all time . no debate required .

Dawn & French?

Laverne and Shirley?

Who gives a FECK Enough of this “Why didn’t they have women this or that” They didn’t so get FECKING OVER IT.

Because Laurel and Hardy aren't funny?

AmyPoehler and TinaFey friends since 1993 and hilarious together.

Same reason there hasn’t been a male version of Cinderella.

There's only one Laurel & hardy. There are no other make versions if them just as there are no female ones. There have been female double acts however but obviously not on the same level.

The same reason there is not a female version of Auf Wierdersehen Pet. It simply would not he funny. Certain comedy shows/movies are made with men in mind and there's nothing wrong with that. Men and women have may differences and humour is certainly one if them.

French and Saunders. Ab-Fab. Tina Fey and Amy Poelher. Yeah, no women are funny together.

Hello... Laverne and Shirley?!

Lauren and Softy

Lauren and Harriet?

just do it JR 'GUARDIAN' and spare us the academic headache..

a very silly avenue of inquiry...

So why hasn't there ever been a female version of Hitler?

Because people wouldn't believe that women are that inept

Let this man explain it to you.

telegraph managed a quite interesting list which seems to have escaped the PC guardian -

what exactly were French&Saunders then? guardian eejits.

You're so enlightened, Ryan.

French & Saunders?

Lucy and Ethel, Thelma and Louise .....

French and ferrifrump ?

Why threre should be a 'Female version' of everything?

Because women comedians are shit

Are you assuming their gender?

....and you call yourself a film critic? You really are out of touch with comedy to ask such a stupid question!

It wasn't exactly the same, but didn't you get to see 'Laverne and Shirley' across the pond?

Because there doesn’t have to be a female version of everything.

Hopefully because 'they' are working diligently to create something original rather than plagiarize something that cannot be improved upon for the sole reason of making a buck.

I assume this means a female comedic duo as opposed to an actual female Laurel and Hardy. Right?

Surely the real Guardian question should be Why hasn’t there been a Trans version of Laurel and Hardy? 😉

Fey and poehler

That is a question that needs to be asked of women.

Killing Of Sister George ?

Looks like this article did it's job.

Why is there no male version of Wonder Woman?

I'm guessing that you think its because of sexism?

French and Saunders..Saunders bu bu bu-bee do! Funny as fu** watching them when I was a tyke 😀

Same reason there’s no male version of “Golden Girls”

'allowed to'...''allowed to..' What actual issue is this article addressing? The ongoing and very successful progress against sexism can well do without this lazy-assed nonsense...

Yawn

Why has there never been a male French & Saunders?

“Gender imbalance in the industry means that men have always been judged on the basis of whether they are funny or not, whereas women tend to be expected to reinvent the wheel and walk on water, preferably at the same time.” Er, no, they’re not. Baseless, OTT rhetorical rubbish.

Because L&H’s humor has s slapstick and we don’t associate women with that kind of physically aggressive humor. There hasn’t been a female Stooges either. The closest analogy might be Lucy and Ethel

Or why is the fucking guardian still a thing

Hinge and Bracket ?

French and Saunders?

French and Saunders

really?

I give up, why ?

You must have missed the feminist version, Moral & Mardy

French and Saunders

Laverne and shirley, Lucy and Ethel

It would be as funny as a kick in the bollocks, that’s why

So they've never heard of Laverne and Shirley?

DOES FRENCH AND SAUNDERS NOT QUALIFY!!!!!!!!!!

There hasn’t really been a male one.

Because Laurel and Hardy typifies a particularly dysfunctional male way of relating. And it's really not very funny either.

Mel and Sue , sorry no there shite

Impressed at how many female double acts this article mentions

French and Saunders

Arseholes

Gove and may.

Is there any situation where it isn't the fault of men?

Bore off!!!!

French and Saunders

Really? Really really?

stop it

Why hasn’t there been a male version of the Virgin Mary?

Because no fuckers bothered

Christ, now, according to the Guardian (natch) it’s a sexist conspiracy that there has never been a female Laurel & Hardy. Since this is a BBC film it’s a wonder they weren’t played by women actually.

Well there was French and Saunders - 1988 to 2009

French and Saunders?

For fucks sake!

French and Saunders?

Dunno, but there is no law stopping anyone from making it, so what’s the issue?

did you just compare Laurel and Hardy to Cannon and Ball and Little and Large? Yes you did. Sorry but you lost me at that point!

Let's keep that content going and get people to comment on something very silly. Oops, you made me type!

It won't be long before you lot go into receivership, printing crap like that.

Byron and Garvin. Do your research F.F.S

Jesus Christ.. the Guardian just never lets up with its obsession.

Because they would kill the funny out of it.

You still don't get it do you

There has, Kath and Kim

Why hasn't there been a male version of Thelma and Louise

One can only stare in wonder at a soul that looks at Stan and Ollie and ask such a stupid question.

I don't know what's parody and what's not anymore.

Feel free to produce one. Next!

Faye & Poehler

Oh please, have a day off🤦‍♂️

Laverne and Shirley?

Thete was a female version of Laurel and Hardy. It was Lucy and Ethel. Get a clue. ;)

There has. Diane Abbot and Baroness Nugee. Albeit they are large and larger. Or is that Dumb and Dumber?

Ab fab and French & Saunders?

Laverne and Shirley

Do you ever do research now, of course their has been.

This is neither news or entertainment.

In Australia we have Plebersek and Hanson Young.

Thelma et Louise

Is there a successful version of The Guardian, or just this crap?

somuchguardian Or Buster Keaton?

Probably the same reason there isn't a male Thelma and Louise, it's pointless.

HezTalk Codswallop

Has a single person who's left a comment read the article? Because if you did, your responses might be very different. What he's saying is very interesting. And very supportive of women's comedy succeeding on its own terms.

Because a fat woman with a moustache just doesn’t sell tickets. How do you know they never identified as female?

This article is the definition of trying to create an issue where there isn’t one. Absolute barrel scraping awfulness.

Because women don't have a sense of humour.

I believe French and Saunders were quite popular.

There was, Laverne DeFazio and Shirley Feeney.😂

Are you okay Ryan?

And why wasn’t the film ‘gender’ and ‘colour-blind’ cast? Lenny Henry would be a shoe-in for Laurel, and Dawn French would be an excellent Hardy.

For Christ sake. Leave it out!! What you trying to boil up now. I'm getting rather peed of with all the PC snowflake crap. To be honest women arnt not as good

Come on. Stretching the gender game a bit too far

Lucy and Vivian Laverne and Shirley

Because Women Are Supposed to Be Taken Seriously or Funnily... A Great Tragedy!!!!!

The Guardian has become a hate filled version of its old self

There is: Thresa May and Liz Truss

Corbyn and Abbot?

On the contrary

What on earth are you on about now? You don’t just have “female equivalents” of men. There have been numerous respected female comedians, including double acts.

What about Jennifer Sanders and Dawn French ?

Why hasn’t there been a gay version or a gender neutral version or a golden retriever version, have a day off for Christ sake!!!

Please close down this rag

Because they were blokes, stupid question

Or another male version

Lucy and Ethel

When will this awful bollocks end? Utterly relentless fuckwittery

Abbott and Corbyn?

Because women double acts are not funny? Name three.

Lucille Ball and Vivian Vance come to mind.

Jennifer Saunders and Joanna Lumley…Jennifer Saunders and Dawn French…Victoria Wood and Julie Walters.

I can walk just like them. I look good in black and white and I'm up for being a bit of a silent clown. Anyone want to join me?

Looking forward to seeing this film. Love Laural&Hardy

That would be because Laurel and Hardy were and will always be men, just like all men are men. Maybe you would like to see a man version of I Love Lucy. Or maybe a movie showing the positive side of war. Or how prepubescent children really are old enough to give informed consent.

Cagney and Lacey? Rizzoli and Isles? Schumer and Pelosi?

Clickbait.

Abbot and Ocasio-Cortez are hilarious

Because women aren’t just female versions of men.

You win the How-to-shoehorn-sexism-into-any-old-subject award. Well done.

French & Saunders. Woods & Walters. Go & Lie down

LaVerne & Shirley were close😊

Wood and Walters

Carol Burnett did some great comedy sketches with another female whose name escapes me....Vicki Lawrence maybe. They were hysterical together.

Have you never watched loosewomen ?

Abbott and Thornberry?

French & Saunders. Next?

Cuz everyone saw the new Ghostbusters? Or maybe for the same reason nobody wants to see a white version of Coming to America?

Because the market prefers men double acts. Men are better at it than women.

Patsy and Edina, hello?

Come to next week's SlapstickFest in Bristol - we've got a short starring Laurel & Hardy's female counterparts/contemporaries, Garvin and Byron, on the same bill as a Stan and Ollie

Banging on about gender..

Maybe as it was black & white times, & now some Weinstein type trying to resell some old unfunny junk to make $, with no ideas of his own?

Probably the fault of white middle class men.....

I love Lucy

Ffs

Article isn’t bad, but the headline is going to get some tedious and obvious responses.

Seriously 😐 This is why. You're on the verge of bankruptcy. & Have to beg the punters. For £ online,

You really want an all-female act about incompetence and ineptitude?

Cause fat birds aren't funny.

Or a disabled BAME transgender version?

Get some life, Ryan.

Perhaps, if you made women's comedy about that sort of slapstick you'd sharpish hit the 'oh, you're doing down women' (even if you're a woman writer).

We’ve seen some great women in packed out shows over the years at Edinburgh. They never get promoted on tv/ radio as much as men. On the iPlayer radio there are some really crap guys performing from the festival and yet the women we saw last year never made it to radio 4/ 4Extra

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Or Morecambe and Wise.

There is...May & Soubry

what about these two?

Oh here we go

Why are comedy writers still overwhelmingly men? Are men simply more interested in writing comedy, or are women just not considered?

Lucy and Ethel

Because they are not funny.

LaVerne and Shirely

The new Dr Who was half way there.

y'all ever get tired?

French & Saunders

There has. See French and Saunders for one.

Does there need to be?

Because women aren't funny.

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