The pair also delved into the concept of evil and whether or not it really exists, with Dr. Dutton offering a fascinating insight.
"As a scientist, Tommy, evil is a word which is very loaded for me because I look at the brain and how the brain works and I can see various brain patterns and underlying behaviours," he said. "It's strange, there are a number of people who I've met, who have been very bad psychopaths, who I've sat in the presence of, I can't tell you who they are, who I have, there's only two who I would use the word evil to describe them, for want of any better word…"They both committed terrible crimes, and when I've gone into the room in their presence, you feel a powerful chill in you.
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