“If I’m being honest,” says Maskin, “that song was maybe the most traumatizing in terms of the battle we had with it.”
Muna have plenty to say about how it all happened: about how their production chops and songwriting prowess has been slowly improving with each album; about how getting dropped from a major-label deal with RCA in 2020 forced a necessary existential reflection; about how briefly shedding their “sad sack” reputation for a pop-sugar rush like “Silk Chiffon” has changed their lives.
“So I just leaned into it, and that seems to be the case for a lot of the record — we just leaned…” Gavin says, before interrupting herself. “Oh wait, I actually don’t want to use that phrase. ‘Leaning in’ is a girl boss phrase.”“That should have been the name of the album,” says Gavin., who met at USC, has been told enough times that Maskin can summarize it in one sentence.
Gavin paused her musical ambitions after that and spent her first year of college at NYU, an experience she wrote about in Muna’s 2019 song: “You’re going to move to New York and experiment with communism/Go down on a girl, after reading her some Frantz Fanon.”
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