And he was always so funny too, even when he was delivering an insult or harsh feedback. Everything Tony said came from a place of truth. For example; to some degree he really did not like vegetarians and vegans, but the reason was that he viewed it as not being open to new experiences. The typical vegetarian, in his mind, was someone who lived a bland existence.
He didn't like being the center of attention. If we were going out in public he would puff himself up to brace himself for the usual onslaught of people. But I remember there were also times he would do that and not get recognized, and he would be deflated by that, so he found both scenarios hard.in Vietnam in 2016, Tony was a combination of nervous and extremely depressed. We just couldn't figure out why President Obama wanted to take time out to film with us.
In the Democratic Republic of the Congo, Tony made a joke about it on camera. We had stopped along the Congo River and he was given a beautiful handmade copper bracelet by a king of a local tribe. It really left a strong impression on him and when we hopped back on the boat, as the sun was setting, Tony wanted to talk right to the camera, which was unusual.
I was in New York when Tony died on June 8, 2018. I was at home asleep and I remember thinking my alarm was going off. I kept hitting snooze on my phone and then my landline started ringing at the same time. It was 5am. When I picked up the phone, it was Chris Collins, in tears, telling me that Tony had killed himself. It was a terrible shock.
After he died, I spent two years doing nothing. It would have been very upsetting to go back and work in television. There was only one Tony, and making TV without him was not something I was interested in doing.
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